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we'll have more on the nra in just a moment. right now i'm joined by tom kotz, kaley elkins, rich lucivella of "s.w.a.t." magazine, and jackie kellens. thank you for being here. they promised, quote, meaningful contributions to stop gun violence but in a press conference in which the organization took no questions, the executive vice president and ceo wayne lapier's only contribution was his call for armed guards inside all of the nation's schools. >> i call on congress today to act immediately to appropriate whatever is necessary to put armed police officers in every single school in this nation. and to do it now to make sure that blanket safety is in place when our kids return to school in january. >> for 30 minutes lapierre went on a tread that was steadfast, unyielded and trying to blame violence on the insane monster that is pop late our society. but it turned into a glimpse inside the mind of the man who makes the nra, the lobbying arm of the firearms industry, tick. it was easily the most riveting, chilling and revealing
we'll have more on the nra in just a moment. right now i'm joined by tom kotz, kaley elkins, rich lucivella of "s.w.a.t." magazine, and jackie kellens. thank you for being here. they promised, quote, meaningful contributions to stop gun violence but in a press conference in which the organization took no questions, the executive vice president and ceo wayne lapier's only contribution was his call for armed guards inside all of the nation's schools. >> i call on congress today to...
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see what the nra plan to do going forward. >> exactly. i'll be on the program, as well. thank you for the plug and that does it for this edition of "andrea mitchell reports." my colleague tamron hall has a look at when's next. >> hi, andrea. plan "b" basically stands for be real. and house republicans get ready to bring boehner plan to the floor for a vote. senator reid says it's got no chance of passing the senate. what's the possible solution? >>> democratic congressman pass quell and congresswoman swartz will join us. tomorrow, the nra holds that big news conference we have been waiting for. will the organization announce support of gun control legislation? that's the gut check question of the day. the only underarm treatment for low t. that's right, the one you apply to the underarm. axiron is not for use in women or anyone younger than 18. axiron can transfer to others through direct contact. women, especially those who are or who may become pregnant, and children should avoid contact where axiron is applied as unexpected signs of pu
see what the nra plan to do going forward. >> exactly. i'll be on the program, as well. thank you for the plug and that does it for this edition of "andrea mitchell reports." my colleague tamron hall has a look at when's next. >> hi, andrea. plan "b" basically stands for be real. and house republicans get ready to bring boehner plan to the floor for a vote. senator reid says it's got no chance of passing the senate. what's the possible solution? >>>...
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. >> the nra national rifle association which has no answer to why americans should be allowed to buy and possess assault weapons with rounds they can shoot off and kill little children. >> mark. >> the 23 million americans who remain out of work and have been out of work for a long period of time. >> seldom aidle son who backed candidates with millions of dollars, including mitt romney, and though lost. >> how many millions? >> all total? >> five or something? i think it's in the neighborhood of the 70s. >> yeah. >> right. he is moving along. the biggest loser of 2012 lance armstrong for using performance-enhancing drugs. armstrong was stripped of his tour de france titles and sponsor contracts worth 15 to $18 million. biggest loser. >>> okay. best politician. >> wisconsin governor scott walker. he put through his right to work laws. he didn't want a recall. he was an inspiration for republican governors. it's a move gone all over the country. >> best politician bill clinton, who in a single speech at the democratic national convention injected energy and enthusiasm into the voters.
. >> the nra national rifle association which has no answer to why americans should be allowed to buy and possess assault weapons with rounds they can shoot off and kill little children. >> mark. >> the 23 million americans who remain out of work and have been out of work for a long period of time. >> seldom aidle son who backed candidates with millions of dollars, including mitt romney, and though lost. >> how many millions? >> all total? >> five or...
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tomorrow morning, the nra would be there every step of the way. every u.s. attorney. violent felon, violent criminal, take them off the street. look, if ever -- >> there's no new gun regulation you would support. >> this is what would work. if every -- >> i'm asking you a direct question. is there any new gun regulation you would be willing to support? >> i'm giving you the answer. >> you're saying we should prosecute more criminals. >> he did not go on to answer the question directly. we do know the answer, the national rifle association does not support any new gun regulations at all, period. end of story. or at least end of the nra's story, the real story of gun violence and some things you probably don't know about it is ahead. there's actually some good news here, or at least promising news, scouts honor. >>> there are 1,000 names for the -- before i choose a name, i >>> there are 1,000 names for the -- before i choose a name, i can't even tell you the thing i'm talking about, the fiscal stuff that's going to happen at the end of the year, and it will be bad. tha
tomorrow morning, the nra would be there every step of the way. every u.s. attorney. violent felon, violent criminal, take them off the street. look, if ever -- >> there's no new gun regulation you would support. >> this is what would work. if every -- >> i'm asking you a direct question. is there any new gun regulation you would be willing to support? >> i'm giving you the answer. >> you're saying we should prosecute more criminals. >> he did not go on to...
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you sit there in a meeting and some nra guys are at the meeting. they say you're on a slippery slope. next you'll be after your deer rifle, they say. it's not a slippery slope. what do you say? >> no one wants to take away your deer rifle, number one. every one of our amendments are qualified. and number three, if you guys are so tough how come you opposed me in three state campaigns and i got elected by 10 points, 12 points, and 21 points. if the nra is so tough, how did i win? >> because the suburbanites love you. you didn't change their minds you beat them. >> in my first election i won 15 out of 67 counties. in my second i won 33 out of 67 counties. >> yeah. >> so they're not that tough. they are literally a paper tiger. they're the wizard of oz. >> that's because you're running against my brother and len swann. i'm just teasing. i'm teasing my brother there. did you find yourself successful as a guy who's known to be for gun control in areas of the state that are very tough on that? did you change any minds? did you manage to win minds over on
you sit there in a meeting and some nra guys are at the meeting. they say you're on a slippery slope. next you'll be after your deer rifle, they say. it's not a slippery slope. what do you say? >> no one wants to take away your deer rifle, number one. every one of our amendments are qualified. and number three, if you guys are so tough how come you opposed me in three state campaigns and i got elected by 10 points, 12 points, and 21 points. if the nra is so tough, how did i win? >>...
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the nra has blood on its ads. the nra has blood on its hands. shame on the nra ban assault weapons now. ban on assault weapons now. stop killing our children. stop the reckless behavior of the nra. we need gun control now. >> rather than face their own moral failings, the media demonizes the gun owners, amplifies their cries for more laws, and fills the national media with misinformation and dishonest thinking that only delay meaningful action in all that guarantees the next atrocity is only a news cycle away. the media calls semi automatic firearms machine guns. they claims the civilian automatic firearms are used by the military. they tell us that the 223 round is one of the most popular calibers when all of these claims are factually untrue. they don't know what they are talking about. worse, they perpetuate the dangerous notion that one more gun ban or one more law imposed on peaceful lawful people will protect us where 20,000 other laws have failed. as brave and heroic and as self- sacrificing as those teachers were in those classrooms and
the nra has blood on its ads. the nra has blood on its hands. shame on the nra ban assault weapons now. ban on assault weapons now. stop killing our children. stop the reckless behavior of the nra. we need gun control now. >> rather than face their own moral failings, the media demonizes the gun owners, amplifies their cries for more laws, and fills the national media with misinformation and dishonest thinking that only delay meaningful action in all that guarantees the next atrocity is...
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we have big following in florida with the nra i can see that. looking at their website you know, and everyone looks at florida as far as concealed weapon permits i think it has tripled over the last few years. i know the nra has over four million members. people want to bear arms. i upt stand that. people want to have concealed weapons now. when i say it is a problem not just the state of florida. i see that as a problem states are operating as individual countries. when you go to europe, you know, the size is around the same but you see each state size is a country in europe. we are operating like a country. each state if colorado wants marijuana then they get it. if florida wants to have guns. was i was growing up i noticed that the federal government stepped in more. the lawmakers were accountable. if you went too mar far in your state the federal government slapped you back a little bit. when president obama came into arizona he got a stern talking to. and he's a chief of the country and he has a finger in his face. we have to have the respe
we have big following in florida with the nra i can see that. looking at their website you know, and everyone looks at florida as far as concealed weapon permits i think it has tripled over the last few years. i know the nra has over four million members. people want to bear arms. i upt stand that. people want to have concealed weapons now. when i say it is a problem not just the state of florida. i see that as a problem states are operating as individual countries. when you go to europe, you...
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the nra is prepared to offer meaningful contributions to help make sure this never happens again. nra saying it will hold a news conference on friday, one week to the day after the school shootings. martha: and the gun industry itself is facing an extreme backlash as a result of all of this and it is feeling it in the bottom lines. shares of major gun makers have dropped in the wake of the sandy hook shootings and the owner of the company that makes one of the weapons used in that tragedy says that they have decided to get out of the gun business. interesting developments here that reverberate all the way to wall street. stuart varney is the anchor of "varney & company" on the fox business network. stuart, how is tall this playing out in these companies? >> martha, there is a long list of backlash developments. start with this. cheaper than dirt.com, one of the largest internet gun sellers just announced it is suspending all sales. as you noted, the company that makes the bushmaster rifle which was used in the attack, that company will be sold off. we have a california public teac
the nra is prepared to offer meaningful contributions to help make sure this never happens again. nra saying it will hold a news conference on friday, one week to the day after the school shootings. martha: and the gun industry itself is facing an extreme backlash as a result of all of this and it is feeling it in the bottom lines. shares of major gun makers have dropped in the wake of the sandy hook shootings and the owner of the company that makes one of the weapons used in that tragedy says...
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erin, what do you think they mean by that, the nra. what do you think they will support? >> i think they know that something is going to be passed, and it will serve them best to be in this fight from the very beginning. not a fight really. i think they're serious. i think they know this is a problem, and it would just be best for them -- >> you mean they'll support some gun restrictions. >> i think they will absolutely. >> when have they done it before? >> i can't say but -- >> when have they done it before? they have never done it before. >> they never have but when they say they want to give some meaningful contributions they mean it. >> they'll talk about mental illness, possible checks on mental illness, the video culture of our society, they'll talk about everything but guns. your thought, ron, we have to get out of here but i don't have any confidence in the nra. you may be right. >> meaningful ccs, cosmetic contributions is what they're looking for. but erin is right, they're looking to get on board this thing so they can steer the train as it were. >> i think the
erin, what do you think they mean by that, the nra. what do you think they will support? >> i think they know that something is going to be passed, and it will serve them best to be in this fight from the very beginning. not a fight really. i think they're serious. i think they know this is a problem, and it would just be best for them -- >> you mean they'll support some gun restrictions. >> i think they will absolutely. >> when have they done it before? >> i can't...
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the nra is a very close circle of people. we won't be hearing a lot in news leaks about this kind of thing. it is very hard to determine what they mean. in the past, they have not really been -- they haven't been willing to give any wiggle room at all to a lot of their policies. they have been very clear. there is not a lot of gray area in the kinds of things they advocate for. we have no idea what they mean by these contributions on friday. we have no clue that they're going to say. >> we'll have to wait and see. thank you. good to see you. >> thank you. >>> the search for a motive in the shootings at sandy hook elementary led connecticut's chief medical examiner to ask a geneticist to join the investigation. investigators want to know if there are any identifiable diseases that might be associated with gunman adam lanza's behavior. they were already subpoenaing medical records to see if he was on medication, maybe if he went off medication. they're also waiting for the results of the toxicology tests hoping to shed light as
the nra is a very close circle of people. we won't be hearing a lot in news leaks about this kind of thing. it is very hard to determine what they mean. in the past, they have not really been -- they haven't been willing to give any wiggle room at all to a lot of their policies. they have been very clear. there is not a lot of gray area in the kinds of things they advocate for. we have no idea what they mean by these contributions on friday. we have no clue that they're going to say. >>...
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this is a frank luntz poll, 74% of nra members support criminal background checks. because nra members like average americans realize that that has nothing to do with the right of a law-abiding citizen to responsibly own a gun. these are the terms on which we have to have this conversation. and we need to hold people like lindsey graham accountable for making statements like that, that automatically equate any sensible conversation in our country about gun laws with second amendment rights because that's not an accurate portrayal of the conversation. >> dan gross, president of the brady campaign to prevent gun violence, great to have you on. thank you, sir. >> thank you. >>> we go back to the fiscal cliff and the president's call for higher tax rates for the wealthy. republicans fighting those hikes, say that one of the victims would be america's small businesses. >> people need to call him and ask him the question are you also talking about the small business folks. >> if you look at what he's doing, as jon kyl mentioned, raising taxes on small businesses -- >> so
this is a frank luntz poll, 74% of nra members support criminal background checks. because nra members like average americans realize that that has nothing to do with the right of a law-abiding citizen to responsibly own a gun. these are the terms on which we have to have this conversation. and we need to hold people like lindsey graham accountable for making statements like that, that automatically equate any sensible conversation in our country about gun laws with second amendment rights...
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today, twocentral democrats with ratings by the nra said for the first time they are open to new gun laws. warner tweeted this was a game changer, and mansion seemed to agree. >> this changed the dialogue, and it should move beyond dialogue. we need action. >> reporter: an area of possible agreement is snator diane feinstein reintroducing a ban on assault weapons, one specific carney says the president supports. the president and ice president met with cabinet secretaries this afternoon to begin the work of figuring out what specific legislation they may come up with to deal with the aftermath of this tragedy. lou? lou: thank you, ed henry, fox news chief white house correspondent. first guest night says gun laws are a critical part of the national discussion, but the country also needs, he says, to respond to the ment health issues when it comes to mass shootings as well as the corrosive influence of the digital world and a culture of violation. joining us, former homeland security secretary, form earn governor of pennsylvania, tom ridge, who also served on the review panel to study
today, twocentral democrats with ratings by the nra said for the first time they are open to new gun laws. warner tweeted this was a game changer, and mansion seemed to agree. >> this changed the dialogue, and it should move beyond dialogue. we need action. >> reporter: an area of possible agreement is snator diane feinstein reintroducing a ban on assault weapons, one specific carney says the president supports. the president and ice president met with cabinet secretaries this...
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laws in an interview with nra leaders? coming up next. >>> the syrian regime suffers another high level defection. lisa sylvester is monitoring that. >> well, syria's military police chief reportedly has fled to turkey on a scooter after plotting his escape for three weeks. in a video posted online, a man purporting to be the police chief accuses the government of carrying out massacres of innocent civilians and he says the military is nothing but armed gangs that kill. he says is he defecting to, quote, join the people's revolution. and the recovery in the housing market remains on pace. home prices rose 4.3% in october over last year, that is it the biggest percentage increase in more than two years. near record low mortgage rates and fewer foreclosures are helping spur sale which is in turn is boosting prices. and the world's longest high speed rail line is up and running and it's in, where else, china. the 1428 mile line spans more than half the country linking the capital of beijing to the southern chinese bloom city.
laws in an interview with nra leaders? coming up next. >>> the syrian regime suffers another high level defection. lisa sylvester is monitoring that. >> well, syria's military police chief reportedly has fled to turkey on a scooter after plotting his escape for three weeks. in a video posted online, a man purporting to be the police chief accuses the government of carrying out massacres of innocent civilians and he says the military is nothing but armed gangs that kill. he says...
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i think republicans have to be mindful that just because the nra says something, it doesn't mean it's going to be advantageous to you and sort of the demographic we're speaking to in specific here is mothers across america. women who are swing voters. what is the republican party doing if it wants to win those votes 2014, 2016 and beyond? >> i think it probably ends up doing sort of close to what the democratic party is going to do, which is if you look at the kinds of gun controls that people support, they're not really very effective at stopping these kinds of shootings, right? the assault weapons ban, we had columbine. we had michael corn he'll and a lot of school shootings after that ban because, in fact, most of what it did, except for the ban on extended magazines, which i think probably does cut down on the fatality of these shootings, mostly it sort of looks scary or -- you know, the thing that's dangerous about the gun is that it's a gun, and there's almost no kind of semiautomatic gun that you can define that's specially dangerous. >> you get the sense that republicans would
i think republicans have to be mindful that just because the nra says something, it doesn't mean it's going to be advantageous to you and sort of the demographic we're speaking to in specific here is mothers across america. women who are swing voters. what is the republican party doing if it wants to win those votes 2014, 2016 and beyond? >> i think it probably ends up doing sort of close to what the democratic party is going to do, which is if you look at the kinds of gun controls that...
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a week after the massacre at sandy hook elementary, nra executive wayne lapierre joined the debate and here is part of what he said. >> the only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun. >> chris: senator barasso, wayne lapierre proposed having an armed guard in every school in america. estimates are that would cost some where not the neighborhood of $8 billion a year. a couple of questions. one, would you vote at a time of deficit issues for $8 billion a year to put armed guards in every school in america? and are there any laws you can support in terms of assault guns, or assault rifles in terms of high capacity magazines, tightening background checks, any new gun controls you could support? >> letts step back for a second. i'm a doctor and father of three and from wyoming, a state where we believe strongly in our second amendment rights. we are the people of wyoming and we personally still absolutely committed to find real solutions that work. so something like this tragedy never happens again. three more of those children were laid to rest yesterday. >> chris:
a week after the massacre at sandy hook elementary, nra executive wayne lapierre joined the debate and here is part of what he said. >> the only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun. >> chris: senator barasso, wayne lapierre proposed having an armed guard in every school in america. estimates are that would cost some where not the neighborhood of $8 billion a year. a couple of questions. one, would you vote at a time of deficit issues for $8 billion a year...
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the nra became the nra as we know it today by being very savvy about its politics. and the simple truth is, even if there is a national movement right now in favor of doing something, everyone in washington knows that there is a long time between now and when such a law that actually will be considered. and during that time, a lot of the public sentiment can die down and more importantly the nra can work not just the national level, but the tremendous influence at the state and local level. all these congress members, all these senators, they do not run as national politicians. they run in a state or in a district. and what matters to them is how the people feel in their state or district. and what is driving these polls up right now, in large part, is a really tremendous outpouring of sentiment from, yes, some moderates in the middle, but also tremendously by people who already live in largely democratic areas, places that already favor more gun control. that probably makes very little difference to a lawmaker who comes from a state that does not feel that way, bro
the nra became the nra as we know it today by being very savvy about its politics. and the simple truth is, even if there is a national movement right now in favor of doing something, everyone in washington knows that there is a long time between now and when such a law that actually will be considered. and during that time, a lot of the public sentiment can die down and more importantly the nra can work not just the national level, but the tremendous influence at the state and local level. all...
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right, friday the nra will talk in public for the first time. should be very interesting hear wlag they have to say. dan lothian, thanks very much. >>> it is 6 past the hour. the grief and good-byes continue today in newtown. four more funerals will be found for teacher vicky soto and three of the slain children, daniel barden, caroline previdi. with the community still in mourning, students in newtown went back to school. everyone but the sandy hook kids who will return after the winter break to school in a neighboring town. sandra endo has that part of the story. >> reporter: the first day back to school in newtown. children returning to classes tuesday and the painful reminder of those who could not. on the bus ride to school, grief was a constant reminder. >> i noticed it was quiet because people were thinking about the tragedy that happened. >> reporter: at schools teachers and students spent time to reflect. >> they just talked about how things will get better than they are now. i felt safe because when your teachers talk to and comfort yo
right, friday the nra will talk in public for the first time. should be very interesting hear wlag they have to say. dan lothian, thanks very much. >>> it is 6 past the hour. the grief and good-byes continue today in newtown. four more funerals will be found for teacher vicky soto and three of the slain children, daniel barden, caroline previdi. with the community still in mourning, students in newtown went back to school. everyone but the sandy hook kids who will return after the...
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the nra should stop, they won't. we should stop them from being enablers of mass murder. >> being the national rifle association. congressman, thanks very much for your perspective. >> thank you. >> jerriey edjerry. >>> former chief economist at the u.s. sentencing commission and author of the third edition of the book "more guns, less crimes." thank you very much for coming in. i'll give you a chance to respond. the united states has a lot more murders, you just heard from congressman nadler. he said it's because there are so many guns that are so easiil available out there. >> well, you look at the murder rates in the other countries whether if be germany he just mentioned or others and they had lower murder rates relative to the united states before they had the gun control laws. when britain, other countries, ireland, jamaica, other places imposed gun bans, murder rates went up. americans have seen that in places like chicago and washington, d.c. every place in the world that we have crime data both before and af
the nra should stop, they won't. we should stop them from being enablers of mass murder. >> being the national rifle association. congressman, thanks very much for your perspective. >> thank you. >> jerriey edjerry. >>> former chief economist at the u.s. sentencing commission and author of the third edition of the book "more guns, less crimes." thank you very much for coming in. i'll give you a chance to respond. the united states has a lot more murders, you...
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the nra has blood on its hands. the nra has blood on its hands. shame on the nra. ban assault weapons now!. ban assault weapons now!. nra -- ban assault weapons now. >> mr. laperriere what is reaction to the protests? what is your react shun to that? >> rather than face, rather than face their own moral failing, the media demonized lawful gun owners, amplify their cries for more laws and fill the national media with misinformation and dishonest thinking. that only delay meaningful action and all but guaranty but the next atrocity is only a news cycle away. the media calls semiautomatic firearms, machine guns. they claim these civilian semiautomatic firearms are used by the military. they tell us that the .223 round is one of the most powerful rifle calibers when all of these claims are factually untrue. they don't know what they're talking about. worse, they perpetuate the dangerous notion that one more gun ban or one more law imposed on peaceable, lawful people will protect us. where 20,000 other laws have failed. as brave and heroic and as self-sacrificing as tho
the nra has blood on its hands. the nra has blood on its hands. shame on the nra. ban assault weapons now!. ban assault weapons now!. nra -- ban assault weapons now. >> mr. laperriere what is reaction to the protests? what is your react shun to that? >> rather than face, rather than face their own moral failing, the media demonized lawful gun owners, amplify their cries for more laws and fill the national media with misinformation and dishonest thinking. that only delay meaningful...
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rick leventhal is live for us in new york and the nra not making concessions? >> reporter: and some call wayne laperriere the craziest man on earth. he criticized hollywood and videogame makers and suggested that more weapons are needed to protect our schools. >> the only way to stop a monster from killing our kids is to be personally involved and invested in a plan of absolute protection. the only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is i good guy with a gun. >> reporter: according to a "gallup poll," 53% agreed increasing police presence at schools could be effective and a third said somewhat effective and 12%, not effective and half of those polled said increasing government spending on mental health screening and treatment would be very effective and a third, somewhat and 14% don't think it would help and when asked banning the selling of assault weapons and, 42%, yes, more than a third, 36% said it would not be effective and a "pew research poll" found more men than women want the right to own a gun and nancy lanza and all the adult victims at sandy hook
rick leventhal is live for us in new york and the nra not making concessions? >> reporter: and some call wayne laperriere the craziest man on earth. he criticized hollywood and videogame makers and suggested that more weapons are needed to protect our schools. >> the only way to stop a monster from killing our kids is to be personally involved and invested in a plan of absolute protection. the only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is i good guy with a gun. >> reporter:...
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you are watching live here a press conference with the nra. as you can see, a manner -- a banner was held up by cold pink -- >> killing our children, not armed teachers. we gotta end the arming and end the violence! >> a protesters there interrupting the nra executive director, wayne la pierre who was talking about the -- what he calls the most important issue we face, how to protect our children right now. he says points out that -- he points out that banks, sports arenas -- >> the truth is -- >> it sown sounds like he's -- it sounds like he's leaning in the direction of governor perry of providing armed security in the schools. we're gonna continue to monitor this press conference being held here and if and if there are new developments we'll bring them to you. he did acknowledge -- the nra is rather vocal where there's been violence like this, they have been silent. >>> 8:08. wet weather moving into the bay area could have a significant effect on flights at bay area airports. ktvu channel 2 reporter allie rasmus is live at sfo with informat
you are watching live here a press conference with the nra. as you can see, a manner -- a banner was held up by cold pink -- >> killing our children, not armed teachers. we gotta end the arming and end the violence! >> a protesters there interrupting the nra executive director, wayne la pierre who was talking about the -- what he calls the most important issue we face, how to protect our children right now. he says points out that -- he points out that banks, sports arenas --...
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do you think the nra's solution of arming these schools would be helpful? >> well, i don't think you could do it, suzanne. i think as a practical matter it's just not doable. first of all, you have 100,000 schools in this country. here where i am at virginia tech i'm 100 yards from where my other daughter was when the first shooting happened five and a half years ago and it was right down the hall and her dorm was where the first two people were killed so i look around this campus and there's probably 50 buildings. so will we put 50 police officers, one in each building and is that enough? we have 100,000 institutions and multiply that by the number of buildings if you're talking high schools, you've got kids outside on the football practice thing or the tennis courts or the baseball diamond or the gymnasium. you have how many doors on a good-sized high school, would you be able to guard every door because they can certainly wait while someone comes out one of the other doors and go in. >> another thing with that is if you put an armed guard in an elementar
do you think the nra's solution of arming these schools would be helpful? >> well, i don't think you could do it, suzanne. i think as a practical matter it's just not doable. first of all, you have 100,000 schools in this country. here where i am at virginia tech i'm 100 yards from where my other daughter was when the first shooting happened five and a half years ago and it was right down the hall and her dorm was where the first two people were killed so i look around this campus and...
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made an endorsement, the nra has virtually no impact on congressional elections. the nra endorsement so coveted by so many politicians is almost meaningless, nor does the money that the organization spend have deden straightible impact on the out ofoutcome of races. joining me now is professor of history at the university of michigan, and still with me sam seder, ring of fire. professor, do you agree with me that if we went right at them we could win? >> oh, definitely. lobbyists could be ignored or defeated without great consequences for the elected representative but it's the fear that the rival will get an extra benefit, a little bit more money, maybe an angry constituency will turn against you, that causes i think elected representatives to pay too much attention to single issue lobbyist and the system is set up that they expect that there will always be somebody on the other side. and lobbyists only thrive when there aren't strong voices on the other side. >> eliot: what we're saying is complacency and cowardace. congressmen bow and bend over and are afraid t
made an endorsement, the nra has virtually no impact on congressional elections. the nra endorsement so coveted by so many politicians is almost meaningless, nor does the money that the organization spend have deden straightible impact on the out ofoutcome of races. joining me now is professor of history at the university of michigan, and still with me sam seder, ring of fire. professor, do you agree with me that if we went right at them we could win? >> oh, definitely. lobbyists could be...
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. >> don't you sfeek for the nra. you don't work for the nra and they don't pay you? >> i'm an independent consultant for the nra designed to focus on school safety. that is my mission. now, what i will say in terms of further gun control legislation is that that is the wrong part of the debate. i think the focus should be on school safety. you can have bans on assault weapons or whatever weapons you wish, and it's not going to protect from a violent person. it's going to take someone who has security in the school. timothy mcveigh used fertilizer as his weapon. so let's not focus on the weapon as much as our response capability and safety of the children. that's simply my responsibility, and that's what i'm going to do and we're going to take the best experts in across the country to give these options to the schools. >> without speaking for the nra, do you personally think that there is any place for further restrictions on guns, particularly these high capacity guns? >> that's a debate that will take place. what i'm saying is it's not the solution. i want to look f
. >> don't you sfeek for the nra. you don't work for the nra and they don't pay you? >> i'm an independent consultant for the nra designed to focus on school safety. that is my mission. now, what i will say in terms of further gun control legislation is that that is the wrong part of the debate. i think the focus should be on school safety. you can have bans on assault weapons or whatever weapons you wish, and it's not going to protect from a violent person. it's going to take...
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and the membership of the nra. the membership of four million folks who say yes these measures make sense, do you think we can create a divide between the wayne lapierrres of the world and other folks who may be hunters but they want reason and sanity. >> we've gotten calls and e-mails from nra members in the rural part of my district. one fella i talked to is an nra instructor. actually has a federal license for machine guns but he was adamant that you know, some of the discussion about assault weapon restrictions, high capacity clips are totally appropriate. and that you know, he really felt that the leadership didn't speak for him. this is a guy who has been a life-long member and a very active person in terms of gun programs in the state of connecticut. i actually think this is not just a talking point the president said. there is an underlying reality there is movement within the organization's grassroots membership. >> eliot: their power has been generated from the grassroots. they're able to mobilize. calls
and the membership of the nra. the membership of four million folks who say yes these measures make sense, do you think we can create a divide between the wayne lapierrres of the world and other folks who may be hunters but they want reason and sanity. >> we've gotten calls and e-mails from nra members in the rural part of my district. one fella i talked to is an nra instructor. actually has a federal license for machine guns but he was adamant that you know, some of the discussion about...
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. >> this myth that the nra can destroy political careers is just not true. >> the nra's power is so vastly overrated. >> plus, the fact about the nra's power. mayor michael bloomberg's right hand power. will real america come around on common sense gun laws? >> john nichols on the conservative push to keep common sense gun laws out of the middle of the country. plus, republican obstacles to reduce violence with jonathan and alex wagner. and dr. gail saults on the role mental health professionals need to play to reduce the vie lensz. >> no single law. no set of laws can eliminate evil from the world or prevent every senseless act of violence in our society. but that can't be an excuse for an action. >> good to have you with us tonight. folks, thanks for watching. almost 24 hours ago, president obama called for a change in this country. now, it's up to all of us to make sure changes come to pass. the community of newtown connecticut is still deeply mourning the lives of 26 people, 20 of them children. the president struck an almost impossible balance of heartfelt emotion and out rage.
. >> this myth that the nra can destroy political careers is just not true. >> the nra's power is so vastly overrated. >> plus, the fact about the nra's power. mayor michael bloomberg's right hand power. will real america come around on common sense gun laws? >> john nichols on the conservative push to keep common sense gun laws out of the middle of the country. plus, republican obstacles to reduce violence with jonathan and alex wagner. and dr. gail saults on the role...
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the nra had stopped tweeting. and it also took down its facebook page on friday, just one day after it celebrated a milestone of 1.7 million likes. there are signs that the nra might be losing a script on washington. in,ra memg ber and senator joe manchin now says he's rethinking his positions on gun control. but as dave weigal points out, the nra habit lost any gun legislation since 1999. the five republicans who voted aye are all gone and al gore's tie breaking aye became a focus of the nra's campaign against him. and just somedays before the slaughter at sandy hook elementary, the nra was actively fear mongering over gun laws. an nra spokesman told the washington examiner on december 5th that the organization was preparing to battle with the president. we're not optimistic. we're planning for the worst. we've told people to plan for gun bans and a supreme court stacked with anti-gun judges. the president has a variety of om options and a disposal we don't take any of them for granted. let's turn to mark glaze.
the nra had stopped tweeting. and it also took down its facebook page on friday, just one day after it celebrated a milestone of 1.7 million likes. there are signs that the nra might be losing a script on washington. in,ra memg ber and senator joe manchin now says he's rethinking his positions on gun control. but as dave weigal points out, the nra habit lost any gun legislation since 1999. the five republicans who voted aye are all gone and al gore's tie breaking aye became a focus of the nra's...
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la pierre may, may have damaged the nra's case. by virtue of how that friday press conference went over. miguel? >> barbara starr, thank you very much in washington. >>> and now, to the fiscal cliff. and we are just about to go over the edge. congress has left for the holidays. if they don't get a deal done soon, tax increases and budget cuts will hit after the first of the year. earlier, republican congressman, steve la tourette said the president has been too focused on tax cuts for the rich. but he did leave the door open a little. >> i'm okay, you president, you can tax the rich people. but come up with some spending cuts, we're borrowing $1 trillion a year and he has not. >> indiana senator joe lieberman said he's more pessimistic than he's ever been that a deal will get done. >> in the aftermath of the house republicans rejecting speaker boehner's so-called plan b, the first time that i feel that it's more likely that we will go over the cliff than not. and that, if we allow that to happen, it will be the most colossal conseq
la pierre may, may have damaged the nra's case. by virtue of how that friday press conference went over. miguel? >> barbara starr, thank you very much in washington. >>> and now, to the fiscal cliff. and we are just about to go over the edge. congress has left for the holidays. if they don't get a deal done soon, tax increases and budget cuts will hit after the first of the year. earlier, republican congressman, steve la tourette said the president has been too focused on tax...
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what should we expect from the nra other than a statement? >> if history is a guide, and you go on past behavior, the nra, the last time they were pushed into a corner was when murder was at its all-time high in the u.s. in the mid-1990s. they came out in support of the background check we use today. mostly they come out and say we need to do a better job of enforcing existing laws, not new laws. that means things like more names from people who have been adjudicated, mentally defected, to be added to the data base of prohibitive people. right now there's only 1,700,000. lots of states don't contribute at all because of privacy rules. more tracking down of people who aren't supposed to have guns and things like that. >> i'm curious, though, if they'll do more. they've already said on friday on this press conference they're going to have a major press conference. i'm curious if they're going to say something more. you're right that's in their track record. what about gun sales? we've now read gun sales are up huge. how much were they up after
what should we expect from the nra other than a statement? >> if history is a guide, and you go on past behavior, the nra, the last time they were pushed into a corner was when murder was at its all-time high in the u.s. in the mid-1990s. they came out in support of the background check we use today. mostly they come out and say we need to do a better job of enforcing existing laws, not new laws. that means things like more names from people who have been adjudicated, mentally defected,...
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he won with a 29% margin, defying the nra, even before tonig tonight. defying the nra in kentucky. they were giving him a failing grade. they could tell he was not using their talking points even prior to now. there is a lesson there, it seems to me, as he was saying, in the ability to override the nra when it comes down to the real election for congress. >> yeah, you know, absolutely, and mayor michael bloom berg says that the nra is really just a paper tiger. if you look at their record in the just completed election, they had a less than 1% success rate in terms of all the money in the millions and millions they spent trying to defeat the president. but what i think is important, lawrence, you're starting to see the benefits of being with the nra, and sort of not risking them in opposing an election, are starting to be outweighed in being associated with them. i mean, the nra doesn't exactly have a sterling reputation here, they are the ones trying to clear the way to stop states from banning machine guns, to bring back the dillinger, so they're not actually a friend you want to
he won with a 29% margin, defying the nra, even before tonig tonight. defying the nra in kentucky. they were giving him a failing grade. they could tell he was not using their talking points even prior to now. there is a lesson there, it seems to me, as he was saying, in the ability to override the nra when it comes down to the real election for congress. >> yeah, you know, absolutely, and mayor michael bloom berg says that the nra is really just a paper tiger. if you look at their record...
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and right now the nra is on its heels defenders of our insanely permissive gun laws in defensive crouch right now and it's the time you want to capitalize on that. it's probably the only time. you don't want to let those forces, any sense of complacency setback and you don't want to let the force that is are standing in the way of progress on this issue give them time to regroup and get them -- bolster their efforts. this is going to exist. it's not easy to get done. >> mika, you look at what happened, how it happened. we talked about this happening in shopping mallses in oregon and movie theaters in colorado, college campuses in virginia. of course finally a first grade class in connecticut. in a state that certainly has tougher gun laws than, say, a lot of other red states. in a community that seems like it should have been so shielded from this and a season that is supposed to be about peace. >> exactly. >> i think it underlined in so many ways why none of us, are none of us are shielded from this kind of violence unless we force our leaders to do something. >> well, and, again, i th
and right now the nra is on its heels defenders of our insanely permissive gun laws in defensive crouch right now and it's the time you want to capitalize on that. it's probably the only time. you don't want to let those forces, any sense of complacency setback and you don't want to let the force that is are standing in the way of progress on this issue give them time to regroup and get them -- bolster their efforts. this is going to exist. it's not easy to get done. >> mika, you look at...
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the nra is a forceful power here. mayor bloomberg said yesterday speaking to david gregory "on meet the press" he believes the power of the gun lobby is vastly overrated but enough to deter movement on this issue for the past many years. >> yes. peter, thank you very much. greatly appreciate you updating us from the white house. >>> and the brady campaign to prevent gun violence says since 1970, 1.4 million americans violently killed with firearms. that is more than all u.s. service men and women killed in all foreign wars combined. it is also a stat that chairman of the stop handgun violence quoted in the huffington post blog titled "enough dead children from gun violence." and joins me now live. thank you for your time. >> thank you. >> let's ask for your reaction of the nra silent except waiting to get more information on the investigation. >> well, the nra has virtually owned the republican party and they have intimidated the democrats in to submission. so, you know, they're just going to lay in the weeds. they al
the nra is a forceful power here. mayor bloomberg said yesterday speaking to david gregory "on meet the press" he believes the power of the gun lobby is vastly overrated but enough to deter movement on this issue for the past many years. >> yes. peter, thank you very much. greatly appreciate you updating us from the white house. >>> and the brady campaign to prevent gun violence says since 1970, 1.4 million americans violently killed with firearms. that is more than all...